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T O P I C R E V I E Wnext to neptuneI've really had some problems with people saying they don't like me these days... both old friends and ex-boyfriends...I just don't get what it is about me that is so hard to like? It feels like people just simply don't care after a while and then their "love" turns to some kind of indifference or dislike towards me:/I don't consider myself a bad person, but it does affect me that people I used to know begins to dislike me for some reason...I also feel really depressed these days, or some kind of hopelessness... if I try so hard to make people like me and then they just don't care about me after some years then why even try?I suspect my jupiter opposition saturn for these periods of depression that always comes and go, and maybe my moon square saturn (though it's a very wide orb) for getting this low self confidence and then mercury square saturn for being my own worst enemy, but that doesn't explain why people actually don't like me?Does it has something to do with my ascendant? Or my chart in general, because it has so many squares and oppositions?I would just like to know if it could be seen in my chart (other than just my basic personality)I also have a tight mercury square neptune, so could this just be some kind of overreaction to the rejection I get from people?Heres my chart: Ami AnneChiron conj the ASC--Ouch. Did you have severe bullying, my Friend.------------------Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/next to neptune quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne:Chiron conj the ASC--Ouch. Did you have severe bullying, my Friend.Never anything serious, but maybe I'm just over sensitive...next to neptuneI remember some few situations from childhood where I got some serious psychical damages from people I liked (or looked up to), maybe this has made some deep traumas it's hard to get rid from..Doux RêveYou have some heavy transits going on - tPluto on natal Neptune - read about it, it's quite a difficult transit and could explain your moodiness.tSaturn's in your 5th house - lessons in the area of self-expression, recognition, romance and fun. Oh and it conjuncts your Pluto! Girl, you're in a transitional phase. Soon you'll be changed for the better.Don't worry about it, it's temporary.And I don't think anything in your chart *by itself* explains why people seem to dislike you.I'm sure some people like you no matter what.MsPrismHey Next,I would say that it might be Jupiter crossing your Ascendant, ruling your 10th House. Pluto is also crossing over your Neptune which rules that 10th House. Since this is a double influence, it might be that Jupiter is teaching you about isolation. Pisces is a sign that has to get used to periods of isolation for spiritual growth. Pluto could be making you get to the root of your MC, what you must grow into.I went through something similar although it was me feeling indifferent toward others. It's like I had to realize that my image (Neptune conjunct MC) is illusive and can't really be physically integrated, it's more spiritual, ethereal. In essence, the motivation cannot be physical gratification, you may physically act but it has to be because of spiritual reasons. Pisces is about sacrifice and you might be learning that you have to sacrifice your personal life and relationships a little bit (transit Jupiter conjunct Ascendant) to get in touch with your spiritual side, with that Pisces MC.Also, I've noticed that people want me to be something for them, Neptune conjunct my MC makes my image illusory. These people have all of these notions about who I "should" be but through getting to know me deeper, have their illusions, maybe their idealistic view of me lost, thus disillusion occurs causing them to distance themselves from the true me. This may be occurring for you right now.Just my take and I could be completely wrong. Good luck!StarlightSmileSupremeYour Mercury is exactly conjunct my ascendant.IrisRainbowYour pluto trines your ASC right?When Pluto touches somebody's asc or mc they are usually really liked or disliked people.Pure quote:Originally posted by IrisRainbow:Your pluto trines your ASC right?When Pluto touches somebody's asc or mc they are usually really liked or disliked people.I have Pluto conjunct Ascendant and people either react really positively or negatively towards me. I think the people who react negatively have issues with their own Pluto. next to neptune quote:Originally posted by IrisRainbow:Your pluto trines your ASC right?When Pluto touches somebody's asc or mc they are usually really liked or disliked people.Yes I think so, I don't know my exact birth time, but it maximum differs with about 10 minutes +/ - so I almost certainly have pluto trine ascendant? I can feel it a lot though, it's mostly felt when people dislike me and not when they like me next to neptune quote:Originally posted by Doux Rêve:You have some heavy transits going on - tPluto on natal Neptune - read about it, it's quite a difficult transit and could explain your moodiness.tSaturn's in your 5th house - lessons in the area of self-expression, recognition, romance and fun. Oh and it conjuncts your Pluto! Girl, you're in a transitional phase. Soon you'll be changed for the better.Don't worry about it, it's temporary.And I don't think anything in your chart *by itself* explains why people seem to dislike you.I'm sure some people like you no matter what.Thank you, that is very uplifting to hear! IrisRainbow My best friend is a Sag risin with Pluto conjunct her Asc from the 1st house.Generally,people ADORE her and she always makes an impression(a bit like having a Leo rising).However,there are people that dont like her at all but those are retards,they don't like me either because I don't bite my tongue Btw..I don't know how to explain that with the use of astrology but I can give you some piece of advice.. Before you ask someone why they don't like you.Ask yourself why you care.We weren't born to please anybody and we certainly wont kiss a*s.SmilingHeart<NeptunianSag*hugs* I understand how you feel, i'm neptunian i gets bouts of loneliness because i feel people dislike me, doesn't help saturn conjunct venus.
I don't consider myself a bad person, but it does affect me that people I used to know begins to dislike me for some reason...
I also feel really depressed these days, or some kind of hopelessness... if I try so hard to make people like me and then they just don't care about me after some years then why even try?
I suspect my jupiter opposition saturn for these periods of depression that always comes and go, and maybe my moon square saturn (though it's a very wide orb) for getting this low self confidence and then mercury square saturn for being my own worst enemy, but that doesn't explain why people actually don't like me?Does it has something to do with my ascendant? Or my chart in general, because it has so many squares and oppositions?I would just like to know if it could be seen in my chart (other than just my basic personality)
I also have a tight mercury square neptune, so could this just be some kind of overreaction to the rejection I get from people?
Heres my chart:
------------------Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course.
http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne:Chiron conj the ASC--Ouch. Did you have severe bullying, my Friend.
Never anything serious, but maybe I'm just over sensitive...
tSaturn's in your 5th house - lessons in the area of self-expression, recognition, romance and fun. Oh and it conjuncts your Pluto! Girl, you're in a transitional phase. Soon you'll be changed for the better.Don't worry about it, it's temporary.And I don't think anything in your chart *by itself* explains why people seem to dislike you.I'm sure some people like you no matter what.
I would say that it might be Jupiter crossing your Ascendant, ruling your 10th House. Pluto is also crossing over your Neptune which rules that 10th House. Since this is a double influence, it might be that Jupiter is teaching you about isolation. Pisces is a sign that has to get used to periods of isolation for spiritual growth. Pluto could be making you get to the root of your MC, what you must grow into.
I went through something similar although it was me feeling indifferent toward others. It's like I had to realize that my image (Neptune conjunct MC) is illusive and can't really be physically integrated, it's more spiritual, ethereal. In essence, the motivation cannot be physical gratification, you may physically act but it has to be because of spiritual reasons.
Pisces is about sacrifice and you might be learning that you have to sacrifice your personal life and relationships a little bit (transit Jupiter conjunct Ascendant) to get in touch with your spiritual side, with that Pisces MC.
Also, I've noticed that people want me to be something for them, Neptune conjunct my MC makes my image illusory. These people have all of these notions about who I "should" be but through getting to know me deeper, have their illusions, maybe their idealistic view of me lost, thus disillusion occurs causing them to distance themselves from the true me. This may be occurring for you right now.
Just my take and I could be completely wrong.
Good luck!
quote:Originally posted by IrisRainbow:Your pluto trines your ASC right?When Pluto touches somebody's asc or mc they are usually really liked or disliked people.
I have Pluto conjunct Ascendant and people either react really positively or negatively towards me. I think the people who react negatively have issues with their own Pluto.
Yes I think so, I don't know my exact birth time, but it maximum differs with about 10 minutes +/ - so I almost certainly have pluto trine ascendant? I can feel it a lot though, it's mostly felt when people dislike me and not when they like me
quote:Originally posted by Doux Rêve:You have some heavy transits going on - tPluto on natal Neptune - read about it, it's quite a difficult transit and could explain your moodiness.tSaturn's in your 5th house - lessons in the area of self-expression, recognition, romance and fun. Oh and it conjuncts your Pluto! Girl, you're in a transitional phase. Soon you'll be changed for the better.Don't worry about it, it's temporary.And I don't think anything in your chart *by itself* explains why people seem to dislike you.I'm sure some people like you no matter what.
Thank you, that is very uplifting to hear!
Btw..I don't know how to explain that with the use of astrology but I can give you some piece of advice.. Before you ask someone why they don't like you.Ask yourself why you care.We weren't born to please anybody and we certainly wont kiss a*s.
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